Skip to main content

tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  February 9, 2012 8:00pm-9:00pm EST

8:00 pm
them started to cry. tears start coming down. i went, well, this is what it's about, it is about regaining the humanity they had lost and the sooner they can regain it, the faster they'll heal when they come home. >> carl, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. we welcome your feedback about carl. hope you'll read his book. erin, thanks. good evening, everyone. a story sparks fresh outrage every time there's a new development, especially so tonight. one of haley barbour's final acts as governor was argued in court today. pardons for about 200 criminals, including 4 murderers that the state's attorney general persuaded a local judge to block. you will hear governor barbour's attorney defend the pardons today in mississippi's supreme court and mistakes so many words no big deal. harmless error is the legal term but for the families of the men's victims and the four
8:01 pm
convicted killers, the words harmless error must feel like a slap in the face. all four of the freed murderers, pardoned murderers, worked in the governor's mansion before winning release. critics say they got the release befriending or sucking up to then governor haley barbour. the governor said he committed them crimes of passion. experts that's not true and these are no crimes of passion. one killer stuck up a convenience store, shooting the clerk dead as he begged for mercy. another stalked and then murdered his wife, shooting her while she held their baby in her arms and badly founded a dprend. another claims he was just wrestling with his gun, tusling in his words when the gun went off accidentally. in fact, he had gone out earlier and shot a woman in the back. and another got a third dui and
8:02 pm
pardon came threw on the third one. during the fourth incident, we the way, the fourth dui, he allegedly was involved in a wreck that killed 18-year-old charity smith. he was in jail as i said after the deadly crash when the governor signed his pardon on the previous dui and he walked out of jail. that seems to be the case of the governor not knowing about the fourth arrest. he is under fire for not notifying victims' families about the pardons. but the central issue before the state supreme court today is the claim that governor barbour violated a provision in mississippi's constitution. section 124 that requires criminals to give notice in local papers for 30 days prior to their release. attorney general hood says in 22 cases, that rule was not followed. governor barbour's lawyer defended the pardons conceded that section 124 may have been violated but arguing that legally didn't really matter. >> yet, there is no substantive
8:03 pm
right that's been violated. if there is no prejudice that results from an arguably either failure to comply or partial failure to comply with the constitutional provision then there's been no damage, there's no harm, there's no suffering to require redress. >> in a moment, we'll talk to jeffrey toobin on the words no harm mean from a legal standpoint, what no harm and no suffering means to people that lost loved ones, this's a different story. tiffany ellis brewer lost her sister. >> he's in jail for 18 years. she was 20 years old when she died and had her child laying in her arms when he shot her in her head. and he's pardoned? >> governor barbour going to pardon us for our aches and pains and heart ache we have to suffer? is he going to pardon a child
8:04 pm
that had to grow up without a mother? >> ran i can walker shot and nearly killed in the attack lives in fear the killer now free may come after him and the sister of joseph oz montd's victim and charity smith's parents all suffering tonight. despite requests, governor barbour will not come on this program. his law office sent a statement saying, quote, the governor's schedule will not accommodate an appearance. we'll keep asking. tiffany el blis brewer joins us shortly. ed lavendera is in mississippi. take us through what happened in court. >> reporter: it lasted about three hours and the attorneys for the various convicts pardoned and centers around ten people in particular. there are five convict that is are still -- who are holding pardon papers but who are still in jail. they weren't released in time and then the five inmates who were the trustees working at the governor's mansion, four of which we focused on heavily,
8:05 pm
those guys are already out. so that lot of this riding especially for the ten people what exactly this supreme court justices will decide weighs heavily on them. will they remain in prison? round up the five already released and sent back to prison? that's riding on the decision that these justices make and when that happens isn't exactly clear but the justices peppered the attorneys for three hours questions about the law and about how all of this works out. governor barbour's side essentially arguing they don't have a right to meddle in the right to issue pardons. attorney general jim hood here in mississippi arguing just the opposite, that what might seem as a technicality to barbour's side is simply more important than that, they have to follow the constitution, the notification -- the 30 days of notices that needed to go out before the pardons were issued and what all of this is riding
8:06 pm
on, anderson. >> the attorney argued that he could issue hundreds of pardons without the notice provision at all. how's that possible? >> reporter: they argued that it is up to the governor to decide whether or not the law has been or the notifications have been followed properly. it is up to him and they say if it's 28 days instead of 30 that it would be the governor's right to say, that's good enough. that nothing will change in the next two days to change my decision saying that's the solely the governor's decision. obviously, the attorney general and victims' families here strongly disagree with that. >> jeff toobin, i love that everybody that loves the constitution and unless they don't and then it doesn't seem to matter so he's essentially arguing what's in the state constitution, the words in the constitution don't matter. >> section 124, it's very simple. and one reason why i think this harmless error argument is so
8:07 pm
weak here is because it means it's a technicality, no substantive significance. >> that's not true. >> that's not in this case because in this case a reason for the ad in the newspaper is to notify victims, notify prosecutors, to notify people affected by the crime so that they can go to the governor and say, look, don't pardon this guy. look at the stuff you don't know about the crime. >> that's precisely what a lot of victims and their families are saying they did not have an opportunity to do. randy walker said he never had a chance to plead his case. >> exactly. which seems to me the exact opposite of harmless error. harmless error is you got a warrant, like a search warrant, but the wrong date was stamped on it. that really is a technicality. here, the fact that these people didn't know that these murderers were up for pardons is a substantive problem with how the process worked and which is hard to believe that the judges would read that part out of the
8:08 pm
constitution. >> i want to bring in some victims' family. tiffany, your sister was killed. when you hear governor barbour's lawyer say, there's been no quote, harm and suffering, requiring redress, what do you say to that? >> well, you know, i would wonder, you know, does he have children or brothers, sisters, that had been through this? you know. and what harm and suffering really is because apparently he has no idea and, you know, as you say, that the 30-day notice, you know, we should have been notified but haley barbour should have taken it upon to look at the files and look at the files and see what happened, what really happened. and then -- i mean, this man, you know, there's no -- no harm done? i mean, we have a family member
8:09 pm
that, you know, we won't see or -- until we get to heaven. and there's no harm done? i'm sorry. i just don't agree with that at all. >> betty ellis, it was your daughter tammy who was murdered. when you heard governor barbour's lawyer making that argument today, what did that make you think? >> well, i guess it just goes to say what no harm means to him doesn't mean the same thing it means to us. we certainly have suffered a lot since tammy was murdered in '93. and to us, harm has been done to us because we wasn't given the opportunity to speak and to present our case and our thoughts to him. he couldn't even consider us as being in the picture when he made the decision to pardon these people. he didn't apparently think about
8:10 pm
any of the victims' families. it is like the victim was never there. he was just -- it was just a pardon that he was going to do because he could do it. and that's what he did. >> and had, you know, they put notices in the paper and given 30 days, would you have at least liked to have the opportunity to speak to the governor, to speak to someone in his office and explain why you wouldn't want your child's killer out free? >> yes. we definitely would have liked to speak to the governor. we're trying to speak to the governor and he never returned phone calls or made any attempt to grant us the time to speak to him. the parole board is supposed to approve these pardons, as well. and we've missed parole hearings because they didn't notify us when the parole hearing was going to be, so we really have not been given a chance in this all through the process. >> tiffany, i heard you say that
8:11 pm
this is like having your sister die twice. what do you mean? >> yes. well, you know, when it first happened, i mean, it's a different feeling definitely. i mean, when it first happened it is just unreal. it's surreal. you just hardly can't believe it. but then, when a person is sentenced to life plus 30 years and you think, okay, i don't have to worry about this guy coming out, getting out, coming after my family anymore, you know? the justice system has taken care of him. when he was pardoned, my sister -- it brought back every feeling that we ever had the day that she died. i can remember the exact time i got the phone call. everything. i remember the look on my mother's face when i walked in the door.
8:12 pm
i remember everything. and it goes over and over and over and it has for the last month. it's like my mama has said, it's all you think about. it doesn't matter what you're doing. it's in the back of your mind. >> of course. and never goes away. i guess in many cases it never really gets better. betty, you know, the fact that your daughter's killer now is out there, has this pardon, basically, his slate is wiped clean, your family's hoping that the law's going to change. right? >> yes. we're hoping that the law is going to change. we're trying to get the legislatures to put some bills through that would stop some of this from happening. if the people that were murderers had not been allowed to be trustees at the mansion, then this wouldn't have happened maybe. that was supposedly that is in
8:13 pm
the prisoner's handbook that a murderer is not supposed to be allowed to serve as a trustee. if that had taken place and whoever was responsible for seeing that that didn't happen then we wouldn't be here tonight. >> you know, it is incredible, jeff, when you think -- this man, this man who murdered her child and tiffany's sister got life plus 30 years. that sounds like life in prison. that sounds like you're going to be away for a long time and he wasn't. >> and he wasn't. >> just because he was able to get a job, you know, and it sounds like he never really even did a lot of time behind bars. he was always in some sort of a trustee position, always in some sort of a special program. >> you know, the pardon power is one of the legal ideas that comes to the united states from the power of kings. it is one of the few absolute powers that a king had in england or that chief executives has and it's one of the vestiges
8:14 pm
a president can pardon someone and governors in most cases can pardon people and there is usually no recourse to the courts. the only reason they're in court and they have a shot at getting these pardons overturned is because of the peculiar section 1234. >> do we know how soon we'll get a ruling? >> chief yus tis said not today and i would expect a week or two weeks at the earlier. >> betty and tiff that any i, again, i'm so sorry for your loss and you have to yet again stand up and speak on behalf of those who are not here to speak and i appreciate you doing that tonight for us and we'll continue to check in with you. thank you so much. jeff toobin, so much. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> let us know what you think. we're on google, facebook. does this make any sense to you? let me know on twitter. i'll be reading your tweets tonight. up next, as the killing in syria escalates, the difference between the syrian state media
8:15 pm
is spinning the story and what the reality is. keeping them honest with reports of syrians of a war their government is waging on them. is the obama campaign changing the stance on the people he called fat cats because he needs the campaign donation? anderson, she's 7 years old but she's tough little girl. the man that grabbed her at the walmart, he found that out. we'll show you how she got away and how the story ended when "360" continues. of 7 entrees. four courses for only $15. offer ends soon. i'm jody gonzalez, red lobster manager and i sea food differently.
8:16 pm
britta olsen is my patient. i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the soul can depart." i smiled and squeezed her hand. "not tonight, britta. not tonight." [ female announcer ] to nurses everywhere, thank you, from johnson & johnson. but we couldn't simply repeat history. we had to create it. introducing the 2013 lexus gs, with leading-edge safety technology, like available blind spot monitor... [ tires screech ] ...night view... and heads-up display.
8:17 pm
[ engine revving ] the all-new 2013 lexus gs. there's no going back.
8:18 pm
keeping them honest now on the killing in syria. the regime assault on major cities and the devastation of entire neighborhoods, activists say at least 137 people were killed today, mostly in the city of homs. parts of which seem to be attempted to be levelled to the ground. this video was by someone who found himself right in the middle of the shelling. take a look. [ speaking foreign language ]
8:19 pm
>> yelling god is great. this is daily life and death in homs. almost constant shelling, mortar and rocket fire. going on for six days in the particular bombardment. people trapped in apartments because snipers target them on the streets. they're huddled inside living on bread and water waiting in the words of one local resident for death. it is not just homs. there are tanks on the highway and on the roads. take a look. not jeeps or armored personnel carriers. tanks with guns to bring down buildings. in a town which was leveled to the ground in 1982, someone caught the video of a sniper's
8:20 pm
nest and the sniper who mans it. they're in the all besieged cities taking aim at people taking step outside the homes. they're pinned down, men, women, children. an activist we're calling danny documenting the reality in homs. here's one of his dispatches from today. >> this is one of the houses. look at these children. this is the assad regime treats our children. now you see what assad regime is killing children. what's the u.n. going to do about this? what is the u.n. going to do about this? nothing. they're going to sit and discuss and see what they're going to do this peacefully. they want to solve it peacefully with this. after what they did to these children. they have been hitting us from 6:00 a.m. until it's 2:00 p.m. now. we have over 100 bodies, over
8:21 pm
200 underneath the construction. we don't know who they are. >> remember, the assad regime denies almost all of this is happening. i want to show you syrian state media's website from earlier this evening. the lead story is president assad declares a decree on cyber crime and then support of the regime and reports of terrorist attacks in homs and elsewhere. then a report and pictures of a memorial service for seven security force members, victims they say of the conspiracy. no doubt security forces are being killed. wouldn't be worth mentioning except this kind of funeral in broad daylight is rare in places like homs where the mere act of burying a dead loved one can get you killed. remember that picture? formal presentation out in the daylight. bbc reporter paul wood found out what it's like for civilians in
8:22 pm
homs after they die and he was snuck in to the city. take a look. >> like all the dead here, she must be buried in darkness. daytime is too dangerous. there is no family, no prayers. and little dignity. they have to hurry. even now, they are attacked. they'll be many more desperate and lonely burials. >> people risking their own lives to bury the bodies of children they don't even know until the cover of darkness because it's too dangerous to do it during the day. the bbc's paul wood reporting there. snuck in and made it out again. others are there for the duration. last night we spoke to a man under an alias. he was on foot from another town car railroad i medical supplies. how difficult is it to get
8:23 pm
supplies in homs right now? >> well, it's impossible to get supplies to homs right now. the city is entirely isolated, surrounded with all types of tankers, machine guns and snipers all around. and in the city. the people, they can't move inside the city and they can't go out or get in. at the same time, nothing can go out or in to the city and the hunger is started to spread around and i think in one week it will be a total catastrophe because people will start dying, will start dying at hunger besides shelling and rockets. >> and the shelling's continue? >> of course. shelling never stops since friday. >> we saw -- i saw video yesterday on the bbc of people being buried at night. is that the only time you can bury people?
8:24 pm
>> well, it's the only time we can bury people if we got lucky and the shelling like got a little bit less for some time. and sometimes we can't bury. we can't bury bodies. we just collect them in apartments and we wait till getting some chance to bury them. sometimes we bury them inside houses. in house gardens. >> there are reports as many as 131 people including children were killed today by the regime. what do you want the assad regime to know? >> we just want the assad regime to know that this criminality will not solve the problem. this criminality that he is doing, it takes the country in to hell. he's killing entire cities. he's trying to banish these cities and to destroy it into the ground. i mean, we don't know why we're civilians here.
8:25 pm
we're civilians here. he's not also killing the people and shelling with all types of weapons, he's also isolating the city, isolating this city from all sides so if people will not die from rocket shelling and machine guns and snipers, they will die from hunger. that's the situation in homs. everybody is sitting at home waiting for their death. >> everybody's sitting at home waiting their death? >> yes. exactly. >> what do you hope from the u.n. from the united states, from the arab league? do you have hope that anyone will start to intervene in any way? >> we have been calling the arab community and the international community. please help stop killing people. i mean, this regime is going to kill everyone and just stay at this country with their supporters. they are torturing people to death. they're killing children.
8:26 pm
and even animals can't do that. we really wonder which mentally are they working with? >> appreciate you talking to us. thank you. >> thank you. >> sneaking supplies back in to homs. coming up, the house passes a bill on insider trading by members of congress. we have been following that for a while but critics say the way it got passed is more insider dealing. also ahead, last time around president obama said he didn't run for office to help out what he called fat cat bankers on wall street but is he changing the tune for the new campaign? two sides square off. we're keeping them honest. a me motional moment, congresswoman giffords was stepping down. now the man running for her seat and the connection to the day she was shot. i think i'm goin-...
8:27 pm
shhh! we find that we don't need to sleep that much. there's an easier way to save. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future. ♪
8:28 pm
8:29 pm
8:30 pm
raw politics tonight. the house passed a bill today banning insider trading of members of congress but the way the bill was watered down makes some wonder how it tackles the problems it's trying to address. a congresswoman is pushing for insider trading legislation for years. she tells the "wall street journal" the house bill was written in secret with deals for special interest something she calls ironic. the house bill dropped a provision of so-called political intelligence which frankly i didn't know much about but it's an entire industry built around getting information from congress and then selling tips based on that information to
8:31 pm
financial firms. the senate version would have made people that broker political intelligence register as lobbyists. majority leader eric cantor wrote the house version. dana bash asked him about that today. >> reporter: senator charles grassley in the senate said it's astonishing and disappointing the house would fulfill wall street's wishes by killing the provision about political intelligence. are you trying to protect wall street like he's suggesting. >> think of the wording, political intelligence. there's no so much question about what that even means and there's a lot of discussion in this building and else where about what's the consequence of that provision. are there constitutional questions? does it bring in to question an ability for constituent to come up to us, ask us the status of a particular piece of legislation? does it put that individual in the position of having to then go register? just as a citizen.
8:32 pm
>> dana bash joins us now. i mean, that's sort of a non-answer answer. there is an industry of political intelligence. is there a reason to believe he was influenced by wall street? basically just saying we don't know what that thing means. >> reporter: he is saying that. truth be told that the concept of political intelligence is ill defined and so at the requirement to register or disclose was written in this bill kind of in a vague way and anderson, i have covered a lot of legislation written too quickly, flew out of congress because it was plit cll expeend cent and maybe it was too fast and had major flaws. look at something. eric cantor gets a nice chunk of change from wall street. $343,550 in political donations just this year so far. and this campaign cycle, i should say. just to put it in context, the fourth highest recipient of political donations from wall street in congress. separately, i talked to a source
8:33 pm
with the washington lobby that represents wall street interests saying they worked very, very hard,lobbied hard to scrap this provision. >> the concept is ill defined and kind of a shadow industry of people who get information in the halls of congress, and then sell that information to financial firms because it's sort of -- it's kind of inside information. it's information that hasn't had a wide distribution. correct? >> reporter: that's right. >> that's the theory. >> exactly. people who know people on capitol hill, know aides, know lawmakers. you know, maybe even some former members of congress who can get information of where a piece of legislation is going and, you know, report back. they're not registered lobbyists. they're not necessarily pushing for information. they're getting the information extracting information. >> so does this bill, does it have any teeth or is it for show? >> mostly it's for show.
8:34 pm
that's not me saying that, anderson. what i'm hearing privately from congressional sources in both parties. it is not lost on members of congress, anderson, approval rating is like 11%. they're extremely eager to polish off the tarnished reputation and hoping the legislation to ban insider trading in congress will help. not often you see something like this pass 417-2. just to be fair, though, i talked to experts who say that this does clear up some gray area in the law to prosecute members of congress or aides for using public information for private gain. >> dana bash, appreciate it. i mean, i think that's frankly what a lot of people were surprised about the notion a member of congress gets an information from a hearing or something and then trade stocks based on it before it's got wide dissemination and that's why -- what the idea of this legislation was about. there's more following tonight. we have the "360 news and business bulletin." an aide to former congresswoman giffords also
8:35 pm
wounded in arizona last year will run for the house seat she just stepped down from. he's a district director. the u.s. postal service is renewing the pleas for help on capitol hill after reporting a net loss of $3.3 billion in the last 3 months of 2011. in the last fiscal year, it lost $5.1 billion. and half a dozen apple stores around the world protesters delivered petitions calling for workplace reforms at factories run by apple suppliers in china and other locations, accused of abusive working conditions. apple insists they provide safe working conditions and treat workers with respect. and anderson, jersey city, new jersey, rolling out the welcome mat for snooky and j-wow where they'll film the spin-off of "jersey shore." like the world needs another
8:36 pm
spin-off of jersey city. >> hey -- >> what? hey, make this good. >> i don't have an opinion. we'll check back with you in a little bit. jimmy kimmel is at it again. check this out. he likes to ask the viewers to play pranks on the friends and family and videotape the results. it's pretty inspired. >> i asked everyone watching the super bowl with friends or family to wait until the crucial moment in the game and then unplug the tv. >> come on! >> what? >> put the tv back on! ♪ >> what the -- >> are you kidding me now? >> that just -- >> all right, all right. all right! all right! all right. >> honestly. did you watch the super bowl? >> i did. i watched it in fast forward.
8:37 pm
i went to a movie and watched it in fast forward. >> only you. >> what? you get the key points. >> yeah. >> move it along. i don't have much time. >> keep moving it along then. >> keep fast forwarding. we'll check back with you later on. up next, president obama and wall street, is he changing the tough stance to rake in more cash for the re-election campaign? fbi file on steve jobs. did they uncover any secrets when he was considered for a white house appointment 20 years ago? we'll show you. ♪ [ smack! ] [ smack! smack! smack! ] [ male announcer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum ta tum tum tums
8:38 pm
but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today.
8:39 pm
[oinking] [hissing] [ding] announcer: cook foods to the right temperature using a food thermometer. 3,000 americans will die from food poisoning this year. check your steps at
8:40 pm
8:41 pm
another keeping them honest report tonight. is president obama changing his stance on wall street? this's the question tonight. are all the so-called fat cats he talked about not so bad after all? the question asked because mr. obama's campaign manager met this week with wall street donors in new york. according to bloomberg campaign manager told the group gnat president won't demonize wall street as the re-election campaign unfolds. so they're saying he's going to play it cool and go easy on them. we reached out to the obama campaign. is that what we're saying? that's what we want to know. they tell us the president will never let wall street off the hook for abuses or bad behavior. they also say they plan to run against mitt romney and the economic record, not wall street itself. so there's plenty of reason for wall street to be nervous. president obama's made wall street reform a top priority. he's pushed changes aimed at regulating the industry blamed for plunging the nation in the
8:42 pm
worst economic situation in decades. he said i'm interested in protecting our economy. keeping them honest, he's had tough talk for wall street over the years. listen. >> i did not run for office to be helping out a bunch of, you know, fat cat bankers on wall street. i intend to hold these banks fully accountable. the days of out-sized rewards and speculation has to be over. wall street firms turned huge profits by taking in some cases reckless risks and cutting corners. all of this came at the expense of working americans. we've put in place new rules to hold wall street accountable. >> that's president obama taking aim at wall street. according to the center for responsive politics, donations of wall street to the obama campaign are down sharply. obama raked in $42 million from the finance sector 0 compared to john mccain. so far, he's raised just over $5
8:43 pm
million while mitt romney is doing better, more than double that amount about $12 million in wall street donations. let's dig deeper now. joining me now strategist and president obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher and ari fleisher. cornell, sounds like the president out there publicly criticizing wall street in order to score political points, that's what the critics are saying, while the campaign saying don't worry about it, it's all just talk. is that a fair assessment or not? >> i don't think that's a fair assessment, at all. look. i don't think there's anything wrong with the campaign saying we won't demonize wall street. we don't want to. we need wall street to be healthy but we need them to be accountable and responsible. look at the legislation pushed in the historic wall street reform, it is legislation that's going to hold them accountable and go after the bad practices that got us in this problem. there's no inconsistency there at all. we don't want to demonize wall
8:44 pm
street. we want wall street to play -- >> hasn't that -- >> and play by the same set of rules that everyone else is playing by. >> the rhetoric in the past is fat cats on wall street. seems like we're not hearing that now and is that because of the reality of money from wall street to run? >> i don't look at it at that way. going back to the very beginning of the obama campaign, the president railed against special interests, then candidate obama, and influence and said i won't accept pac money, take money from lobbyists. that was true in '08 and today. the average campaign donation is still just $55. there's a stark difference looking at the average contribution and the average -- what these superpacs are doing writing $5 million a pop to newt's superpac. that's a super difference. >> ari, the president has now said, you know, his supporters can give money to superpacs and
8:45 pm
a change in the position entirely. do you think this is double talk? >> oh, there's no question. and it's hard to know where to begin with the double talk there's so much of it. he said he wouldn't take money if lobbyists and now set up a superpac. he is against the wall street wealth if the people on wall street keep it for themselves and in favor of them sharing a little bit with him and then the campaign manager goes to wall street saying he won't vilify them just after vilifying them in the state of the union address. this is just like the flip flop not taking public finance for the 2008 campaign and he d. he'll say one thing and then go right out and do whatever's convenient to be re-elected. >> cornell? >> sounds like he's been reading, you know, talking points against romney. look. the president isn't setting up a superpac. he has nothing to do with the superpac. >> except -- >> isn't he going to send out
8:46 pm
folks to fund-raisers for -- >> no. are democrats going to line up and start -- and sort of fund raise for their own superpacs? absolutely they r. it's beyond to be stupid, it would be political suicide for democrats to disarm and not engage in superpacs. karl rove's superpac raised over $50 million. it would be political suicide for democrats to -- >> i get that from -- >> and not play by the same rules as republicans are playing by. >> right. i don't think anyone disagrees that it makes sense from a political standpoint. do you think, though, it's a fundamental change of his position basically allowing surrogates to go to the things whereas in the past he's spoken against superpacs? >> i think you will still see him speak against superpacs but the political reality is when they're raising $50 million, you know, unfiltered money in that way, the political reality is that democrat haves to play by
8:47 pm
the same rules and cannot disarm in the face of this onslaught of money. we can't. >> ari, i just want to quickly get in about the gop race. mitt romney making a speech at c-pac, conservative convention tomorrow. how important is this given the rise, surge of santorum in the last primaries and caucuses? >> it is important. if he gets a hero's welcome and mitt romney gets a cool reception, it sends a message to arizona and michigan, next two states that vote. speak less of personality and of biography and more of policy. he needs to say that he is for the big reforms in this race, entitlement and spending and put his mark down to be a reformist president on economics. i think he has credit bltd there and such a convoluted position with the 59-point policy. more to the point. >> cornell, i appreciate it, you being on tonight. ari, as well. the fbi releasing the file on steve jobs. they had a file on him.
8:48 pm
close to 200 pages. got information about everything from his drug use in the past to what his neighbors thought of him. we'll show you when's in it. videotaping of an attempted kidnapping inside a walmart. [ male announcer ] if you believe the mayan calendar, on december 21st, polar shifts will reverse the earth's gravitational pull and hurtle us all into space, which would render retirement planning unnecessary. but say the sun rises on december 22nd and you still need to retire, td ameritrade's investment consultants can help you build a plan that fits your life. we'll even throw in up to $600 when you open a new account or roll over an old 401(k). so who's in control now, mayans?
8:49 pm
so i used my citi thank you card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? we talked about getting a diamond. but with all the thank you points i've been earning... ♪ ...i flew us to the rock i really had in mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] the citi thank you card. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, with no blackout dates. [ male announcer ] red lobster's four course seafood feast is back. get soup, salad, cheddar bay biscuits, dessert and choose one of 7 entrees. four courses for only $15. offer ends soon. i'm jody gonzalez, red lobster manager and i sea food differently. i'm jody gonzalez, red lobster manager
8:50 pm
vacations are always wasn'ta good ideaa ♪ priceline negoti - - no time. out quickly. you're miles from your destination. you'll need a hotel tonight we don't have time to bid you don't have to bid. at priceline you can choose from thousands of hotels on sale every day. save yourself... some money agents, when it comes to insurance, people feel lost.
8:51 pm
that's a dead end. don't know which way to turn. this way. turn around. [ woman ] that's why we present people with options to help them find coverage that fits their needs. almost there. whoo! yay! good work. that's a new maze record. really? i have no idea. we don't keep track of that kind of stuff. well, you should. [ male announcer ] we are insurance. ♪ we are farmers ♪ bum, ba-da-bum, bum, bum, bum ♪ check in with the "360 bulletin." >> anderson, did dispatchers delay sending police to josh powell's home? an investigation is under way in washington state to answer that question. critics claim dispatchers did not grasp the danger of the situation and move fast enough. police say powell killed his two you young sons and himself in sunday's explosion. an elementary school was closed for two days after two
8:52 pm
teachers were charged with committing lewd acts on students. one of the men is accused of taking hundreds of nude photos of children. georgia police say this walmart surveillance tape shows a man trying to abduct a 7-year-old girl right inside the store. not far from the mother. but she kicked and squirmed until he let her go. the man is under arrest. and today, the fbi released its file on apple visionary steve jobs. it's information compiled in the background check in 1991 when president george h.w. bush was considering him for a job. neighbors loved him and others said he experimented with marijuana and lsd when he was young. jobs was cleared for the job and he served on that board. moral of the story, anderson, be nice to your neighbors. >> i guess so. all right. let's check in with piers morgan. >> thanks, anderson. we have the news manager of hot spots all over the world.
8:53 pm
dan rather on the crisis in the middle east and turmoil in the gop. also, look inside syria's ruling family. the american hero who may replace gabby giffords in congress and only in america, the rise of sanity in the nba. that and more back at 9:00. >> thanks very much. coming up, adele -- carl loggerfeld goes after adele. you won't believe what he said about her. thermacare works di. it's the only wrap with patented heat cells that penetrate deep to relax, soothe, and unlock tight muscles. for up to 16 hours of relief, try thermacare.
8:54 pm
we have to thank you for the advice on phillips' caplets. magnesium, right? you bet! phillips' caplets use magnesium. works more naturally than stimulant laxatives... for gentle relief of occasional constipation. can i get an autograph? [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. ttd# 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about the typical financial consultation ttd# 1-800-345-2550 when companies try to sell you something off their menu ttd# 1-800-345-2550 instead of trying to understand what you really need. ttd# 1-800-345-2550 ttd# 1-800-345-2550 at charles schwab, we provide ttd# 1-800-345-2550 a full range of financial products, ttd# 1-800-345-2550 even if they're not ours. ttd# 1-800-345-2550 and we listen before making our recommendations, ttd# 1-800-345-2550 so we can offer practical ideas that make sense for you. ttd# 1-800-345-2550 ttd# 1-800-345-2550 so talk to chuck, and see how we can help you, not sell you. ttd# 1-800-345-2550
8:55 pm
8:56 pm
8:57 pm
time now for "ridicu-list and adding karl lagerfeld. he was a guest editor at "the metro" and paris office, he sat down to wax poetic on everything from world politics to the theory that, quote, people in magazines are 50% bimbo and 50% pregnant women. but it was what he said about singer adele getting attention. he said, and i quote, the thing at the moment is adele. she is a little too fat but she has a beautiful face and a divine voice. now he is backtracking with this apology. quote, i'd like to say that i am your biggest admirer. sometimes when you take a
8:58 pm
sentence out of the article, it changes the meaning of the thought. i'd like to know what sentence could have been taken out of the article that would have made that all right. she's a little too fat but only in the brain. she has a really fat brain filled with knowledge. that doesn't fix it. there's no doubt that his perspective is skewed. he works in the fashion industry and surrounded by models conforming to one standard of beauty. i can only hope adele does not take the nonsense to heart and the young girls that look up to her do not either. maybe karl just wants to help. he's had his own weight issues. he lost 90 pounds and in 2005 he told larry king how he did it. >> there were not pills. nothing chemical. only elements and vitamins and home pathic stuff and then only vegetables, steamed vegetables,
8:59 pm
yogurt, 0%, cornbread and nearly nothing else. >> oh, i'm sorry. i'm pretty sure he said steamed vegetables, yogurt and cornbread. but if you want to know more, you can pick up a copy of the diet. oh, yeah. that's right. publisher's weekly noted that the book on exercise is, well, rather strange. if women want to tone breasts sprinkle them with cold water every morning and perform specific exercises but to change the look, you need plastic surgery. karl, logic. luckily he doesn't limit the pronouncements to other people's weight and helpful opinions of a myriad of subjects. take the greek economic subject. nobody wants greece to disappear but they have really disgusting habits, italy as well. i know you're dying to know what he thinks about russia. so quote, if i was a woman in russia i would be a lesbian as the men are very ugly. and finally, on political


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on